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Andreoli on Oil & Fuel: There’s a danger to ditching diesel

Logistics Management -- The average truck consumes roughly 11,000 gallons of diesel per year. Consequently, even minor shifts in fuel prices have a significant impact on operating costs. For instance, when applied to a fleet of 100 trucks, a price drop of 25 cents per gallon generates annual savings exceeding a quarter of a million dollars.

Of course, in a competitive environment, some, if not all of these savings, are passed on to shippers, but the opposite is also true. When prices increase, shippers, carriers, and consumers all take a hit.

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Submitted Aug 01, 2012 By: doeslayersr

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:20:41 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse EVB: much of that comes from having to be around lots of pollution - not just the diesel trucks and their outputs.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:19:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse diesel has its place. We could make it much better by going B-50 or B-75 using homegrown oils which can come from plants that would actually improve the soils upon which they are grown, rather than depleting them.
EVBuddy Champion Author Nevada Posts:16,670 Points:3,027,595 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 6:16:44 AM Ignore EVBuddy Report Abuse And truck drivers get more cancer accotding to the EPA
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,911 Points:2,341,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 4:48:48 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Go with the fuel that makes sense at the time. If diesel is the best choice and price, so be it. If natural gas is your best choice, then use it. In town use, an EV or an Inbred might be a good choice. Use the vehicle and fuel that suits your application with the cheapest vehicle and fuel cost possible. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
vollee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,749 Points:755,915 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:35:02 PM Ignore vollee Report Abuse All energy sources have their pluses and minuses. Diesel is a good and effective combustion fuel for motive transport, especially long-haul. Natural Gas and CNG can be effective in short-haul and local delivery situations but has not been economical in long-haul. Engines as developed will have a major impact on the economies of diesel vs. CNG or other fuel sources. No matter what, we the consumer pay the transport cost.
J4romeo All-Star Author Gary Posts:506 Points:1,214,925 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:33:27 PM Ignore J4romeo Report Abuse hmmm...savings?
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,448 Points:658,200 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:22:45 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Costs are always passed on the consumer.
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tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:15:13 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse It's the consumer who pays for all.
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judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,550 Points:2,441,135 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:11:19 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse item above is WRONG...when carriers pay more, they pass that on to retailers. It is ALWAYS the final CONSUMER that takes the hit.
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txkrb Champion Author Texas Posts:1,551 Points:635,075 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:00:11 PM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse I agree with gsayeg1 railroads more products should be shipped by rail Due to inventory concerns etc everyone expects products to be delivered in two days WE could save millions of gallons of diesel/oil by shipping more by railroad
evey315 Sophomore Author Ohio Posts:219 Points:208,260 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:59:29 PM Ignore evey315 Report Abuse hummm
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,209 Points:1,304,395 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:57:34 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Duh!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:57:18 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse That part of it has not changed for the last 25 or more years but those who think that diesel can be replaced by natural gas have a lot to learn. NG is not capable of being the fuel that diesel is. Natural gas is NOT new and has been tested for years and does not standout as a vehicle fuel but is great for heating homes and factories.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,757 Points:640,400 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:56:29 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Changes will be made if and when it is cost-efficient.
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,762 Points:1,212,400 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:51:57 PM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse Compressed Natural gas. Cheap, efficient, less polluting.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:769 Points:138,815 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:51:48 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse We have a vast system of railroads in America - time to use them
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knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,372 Points:695,085 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:02 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Well they could switch to cheap CNG and save money while not belching out big ugly clouds of black some. Sorry but I have no love for diesels after being stuck behind one once too often on the way to work. Nothing like arriving with a headache for work even before the headache of work begins in the city.
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HA4CNN Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,600 Points:1,539,360 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:43:03 PM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse Maybe we need flex fuel to counter act market conditions.
OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,038 Points:1,074,430 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:40:52 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse Diesel looks strong in this article.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,543 Points:1,767,935 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:33:23 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Diesel is much better than many of the alternatives. High mpg is a good quality. [Edited by: clermont40miles at 8/1/2012 11:35:28 PM EST]
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libertyut Champion Author Utah Posts:1,337 Points:288,660 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:20:02 PM Ignore libertyut Report Abuse gas is 25% of my income. that is what a home is suppose to be. Still waiting for $2.00 or less a gallon
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,207 Points:813,795 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:18:44 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse any increase can only be aborbed for awhile but in time it will cost every up and down the line!
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TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:8,609 Points:1,910,230 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:17:10 PM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse It hasn't gotten easier over the years to be a fleet manager.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,208 Points:868,310 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:14:35 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse The same as a lot of other industries. Have you ever seen them make food packages larger after a decrease in size?
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AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,339 Points:2,254,755 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:12:54 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse Trucks use fuel, truckers don't make as much money if the cost of fuel goes up
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BCweatherman Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,069 Points:1,221,170 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:05:22 PM Ignore BCweatherman Report Abuse Back in the 80's my neighbour has a natural gas pickup--- it had problems going up hills.