OHMS
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2010 1:01:13 PM
Since both gasoline's hydrocarbon components and ethanol are solvents; without a gas chromatograph how do we separate the smell of one solvent from the others. (sniffing the unknown in qual O chem may have affected my smelling ability)
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Sneakers55
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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2010 12:21:17 PM
YES.
Bought some gas in a small town on I-45. Noticed it smelled funny. Realized then there was no ethanol sticker on the pump. The "no alcohol" gas had more of a solvent smell to it.
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rayplumas
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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2010 9:45:20 AM
A free market should exist for the consumer to buy ethanol or not. I would pay a little more for non ethanol gas, but living in NC I have to check the gas myself.
You can buy a handy alcohol check kit from EAA,
/homebuilders_kits.aspx
This will tell you how much ethanol is in the gas, easy to use.
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Tundralimited2009
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2010 9:26:02 AM
@ samsclub it is on the pump, but @ Kroger it is @ it's own pump seperate???
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gashog99NM
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2010 8:46:04 AM
not that I know of here.
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OHMS
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2010 12:50:15 PM
Handy info to have; just no methanol nor isopropanol; I haven't developed the ability to remediate those into urine yet.
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2010 9:18:26 AM
Not that I have ever seen.
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sjlevine
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2010 8:42:25 AM
Yes in Oklahoma
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Vette1967
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 10:01:47 PM
What's the big deal? If all the states can require labeling on how many calories are in a Big Mac...I'm sure they can do the same on what percentage of ethanol is in gasoline.
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OHMS
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 5:13:24 PM
yeah; it has to say whether it is bourbon; scotch; rye or gin.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 12:07:01 PM
OK- apparently if you go to the blog directly, you can't edit, you can't link, and you have to sign in (and sometimes you show up as somebody else)-- but coming in through another portal brings it all back. Weird.
So here are the links I tried to post:
• Fuel Testers (#1)
• ACE (#2)
Couple of other links for actually finding the good stuff:
• Pure Gas
• Buy Real Gas
-- and of course keep your fellow members advised in local discussion forums.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 11:38:45 AM
Hm. Apparently we can't edit messages here either? What gives? So my links were truncated on the beginning by the message board software, and I can't even fix it. Anyone interested is just going to have to PM me. Sheesh.
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sluggopyle
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2010 11:36:56 AM
Excellent points. I live in a state that valiantly protects us citizens from the horrors of consumer info, but I've asked around and found where the e-free is. Some are helpful enough to put signs out directly stating "no ethanol in our gas".
PD, I'm wondering where your info comes from. Everything I've seen indicates that California DOES require a label, for what it's worth. This includes this resource: [/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html] and this one: [/pdf/contentmgmt/ACE120_Status_07_web-1.pdf] (page 10).
{Why can't we put links in here??}
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Daddybud
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Message Posted: May 18, 2010 4:32:42 PM
Not yet.
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boatcrazyinme
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Message Posted: May 13, 2010 11:14:27 PM
yes they do
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drunkhabib
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Message Posted: May 13, 2010 7:51:51 PM
no but they should
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kcems
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Message Posted: May 13, 2010 8:19:19 AM
yes
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OHMS
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2010 2:00:15 PM
Yes; if you add juniper it's called Vodka; If you add other flaveroids it comes with many a twist. Go Ethanol Labels.
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bladecutter
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2010 6:34:42 AM
Yes Texas requires it.
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BOBBY1983
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2010 4:48:00 PM
yes
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sweeteddy
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2010 3:23:52 PM
yes in Indiana
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genef01
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2010 2:16:25 AM
Not required in Tennessee; there a few places here in Nashville that advertise the fact that their fuel contains no ethanol on their price signboards.
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POLELANE
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:40:15 PM
I've used E85 from Meijer in a flex fuel car; the mileage was down a tad; but the price was better then than now. Probably all balances out in the end. Seems a little harder or slower to fire up; but spring will soon be here
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djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 5:06:58 PM
If I had to revert to sneaking that trash into your car I wouldn't want to tell you either. I got some unknowingly one time and could tell the difference. To a great deal of people that is okay. My car which is a '08 was not altered to run that trash and I have avoided it by filling up at the state line before going into Nevada and if I have to put in fuel there it is just enough to get me back out.
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Toad86
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:23:52 PM
This issue has angered me for a longgggg time in Illinois. Gas pumps have NOT been clearly labeled. I am in one of the top corn producing counties in the country. The Ag lobby is strong here. MOST pumps have a sticker on the side of the pump or up near the top where it is not readily visible that says "All grades of gasoline MAY contain UP TO 10% ethanol". The Ag lobby has the Illinois bar association in their hip pockets on this one. Poor/false advertising of products allowed by law. It is nearly impossible to purchase 100% gasoline in our area anymore. I used to try to do the math on fuel efficiency and the price difference between 100% gas and 10% ethanol to decide which product gave me more "energy" for my dollar. I finally caved in and gave up on that years ago.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 10:20:21 PM
Helms, I totally agree w/ you! Let's lobby to get EtOH banned from gasoline.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 10:19:39 PM
not really amazing. PD, it's not a surprise. Look who greases which palm. That's your answer pretty much.
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Mr.Dirt
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:15:31 PM
ny has it listed and has to tell you
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Helms
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 4:20:40 PM
they do...but ethanol banning would be better!!!
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cpl11787
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 3:40:38 PM
Oh I live in Minnesota, dang.
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pricechecker08
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 2:42:22 PM
Plenty of Ethanol Stations around here Easy to spot There fuel is 20-30 cents cheaper per gallon.
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RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 2:32:48 PM
I don't know if labeling is required by law in Ca., but I have never seen a station that doesn't have a label saying their gas contains up to 10% ethanol. Since it is required by law that all of our gasoline must contain 10% I'm not sure why we should require a label.
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randog
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:29:04 PM
I was wondering why MI stations removed ethanol content stickers in the last few years. It is almost a fraud.
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TJC47
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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:09:33 PM
Y
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lgwhitlock
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Chico
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:07:58 PM
I guess so since my state is at the top of the list. I had wandered about this in the past. I notice some stations do list this but most do not but just indicate some special blend of additives that are supposed to keep your engine clean. I suspect ethanol is one of these and of course stealing power and making your engine less efficient...
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milespergallon
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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:07:34 PM
Don't really know why they do in Illinois, it is not an option here. We are forced to purchase the low grade additive! Everywhere!
Bring on the alternative fuel vehicles so we can get away from this garbage!
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wizzard1222
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:01:38 PM
Old new...yes
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CatMan623
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:01:36 PM
Yes
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LittleDave
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 1:00:42 PM
Even if the state/station does GasBuddy does not reflect this in the data base.
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bobbyd28
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:57:35 PM
yes
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cuspid
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:54:53 PM
dont use it
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SUPERQUACK
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:53:26 PM
SOME IN CALIFORNIA LABEL, BUT I GUESS WE DONT KNOW WHICH ONES DONT ....
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snewwee
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:51:56 PM
With that darn ethanol being added, I've watched my mileage going down for the past 6 months.
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riverrising
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:49:33 PM
no wonder mileage is awful,look what buying into gas. pure to 85 or 90%.
should shake fuel economy,so what difference in driving economy auto?
payments,repo's aren't worthy to me. for some of you,hope your happy.
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Hugo40
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:48:26 PM
My state of Kentucky does not.
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MRHONEST
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:47:45 PM
If we do I'm sure they tax it!
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hwmillerster
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:46:23 PM
Our state does and since it was mandated it should be branded as such.
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tucker355
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:45:43 PM
yes
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Gabilondo
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:44:17 PM
no
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SVmike
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 12:42:13 PM
In CA it says on the pummp but isn't always real obvious
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